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Sunday, December 18, 2011

Mainstream press sniggers at Ron Paul’s antiwar message

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Last night I heard several more mainstream voices trashing Ron Paul for his spectacular anti-war comments in Iowa the other night--when he said the runup to war with Iran was reckless and could lead to another million dead, and Iran has good reason to want nukes-- and a couple of those voices were liberal! First neoconservative David Brooks on All Things Considered last night:
And then, Ron Paul really had a bad debate. People like the fact that he's forthright, but the Iran foreign policy, which is a more Libertarian foreign policy, is really unpopular in a socially conservative state like Iowa.
Is David Brooks really reflecting the attitudes of Iowans? Or is he reflecting his own neocon agenda, his desire for an Establishment candidate, and yes, his attachment to Israel: a place he has visited many times, about which he is "gooey-eyed"?

Then on Hardball last night, host Chuck Todd scoffed that if Ron Paul wins the Iowa caucuses, this will alarm the Washington "elites" to the point that they'll get rid of this long-complained-about nominating system. John Heilemann of New York and USA Today's Susan Page laughed along with him.

Not one of these people said a respectful word about the antiwar agenda of Ron Paul. And this is a demonstration of the moral wanting of the left. Occupy Wall Street has done very little to push the antiwar issue; and here comes a politician with populist charm raging against the Patriot Act and drones and saying Muslims are angry at us because we're bombing their countries, and the liberal Establishment won't go near him. For the same reason that the Republican Jewish Coalition didn't invite him to its forum: he is considered out of the mainstream on the Israel issue.

When this is actually a matter of life and death for some people. North Carolina Congressman Walter Jones went from a warmonger to a war-opposer during the Iraq war because of the condolence letters he was signing to soldiers' families. Again, this story is about the complete detachment of the Establishment from the true costs of a disastrous war. During Vietnam the privileged young were at risk of being dragged off to Vietnam and they occupied university presidents' offices. This time they don't care.

Steve Walt has picked up on studies of the draft: the composition of the military affects the power structure's willingness to launch a war. I have long cited Milton Friedman's position (can't find the book this morning) post-Vietnam uprising-- that we had to get rid of the draft because it hamstrings the ability of our leaders to prosecute a war.

19 comments:

  1. All these pro-war politicians & other puppets should either be required to sign-up for military service or, if too old, should have to foot a % of the war costs from their own income & savings. Tired of those who live comfy lives telling other people to go off to war and remaining unaffected by the whole mess.

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  2. Agreed. We don't need war mongerers in this country. Bachman, Santorum, Perry, and even Romney can all sign up and lead the assault. They will not be missed in my opinion.

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  3. Hmmmm

    not just the lying traitors themselves but their children should be drafted into infantry units going straight to the hot spots in Afghanistan. Or leading the Marines into battle. After all these same people have absolutely no problem letting other people's children fight and die for Israel.

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  4. MSM can eat crow when Ron Paul becomes the next US president.
    David Brooks with all the fascist Neocons can go live in Israel too.

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  5. Good comments you guys.. Thanks...

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  6. "All these pro-war politicians & other puppets should either be required to sign-up for military service or, if too old ..."

    Never mind age - send ALL these rabid warmongerers off to the front lines no matter how old!!! And McInsane can be leader of the pack!!

    Ron Paul 2012 !!!

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  7. It's a damned disgrace when the American media has been hijacked by those who wish to forward an agenda rather than state the truth. That truth is that people overseas hate the USA for aggression and wars and want to be left alone. I know. I am an American living outside the USA for nearly 30 years. I hear it everywhere I go. Ron Paul speaks truth to power. He is the last chance for the USA.

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  8. nothing will change in America's illness--greedy politicians. After 1 1/3 terms most politicians become multi millionair$. They feed off kickbacks.here is a sure cure--Limit all Presidents to one 4 year term and all other senators/Congress animals to 2 terms,That includes no repeats or sublings/spouses to get elected. Likes of Newt Dungrich, Joe Lippermann, John Ass MacAin,Barnyarf Franks,just a few come to mind-- bunch of thieves

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  9. I'd go one further - all politicians should be paid precisely the median wage in the state they represent, and their income should be monitored for the rest of their lives with utmost scrutiny and forensic accounting so as to ensure that they cannot have more wealth than they could reasonably accumulate under those conditions.

    I am sickened with this abusive system where "public servants" do little more than serve themselves to public money, whilst simultaneous selling the public out to corporations who, tragically, also prey on the public

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  10. if ever ron paul wins the presidency i wish he kicks out all the zionist media "owners" and fire all the Zionist publishers. these satanic owners hate life. they relish murdering people by inciting other people to hate through lies, lies and more lies. all of them eisner, rothstein, sulzberger, graham, murdoch, Bronfman etc. i wish ron paul puts them in jail for a long, long time hopefully till death. they have destroyed the souls and humanity of people. these filthy scum are some of your true enemies. israel needs to be disbanded and the land of Palestine should be restored to the Palestinians . all the central banks of the world should be given back 100% to the people of those countries. The neocon communists and those media whores should be executed including o'reilly, blitzer, maher, beck, limbaugh, rivera, coulter and all their lying piece of shit ilk. What they have done and are still doing is so evil and heinous and has resulted in tens of millions of innocent deaths and most probably hundreds of millions more. The rothschilds, warburgs, schiffs, kuhn-loebs, rockefellers and all the conspiring monarchs, royalties, clergy and all the int'l bankers and their enablers should also be hunted down and executed. The zionist presidents, PMs, congressmen and women and MPs of the western govt's of the uk, germany, france and italy should be imprisoned for 30 years without parole. All paedophiles, mk-ultra type mind controllers and murdering satanists should be hunted down and killed. luciferians, talmudists should be imprisoned for the hurt they have done or have been complicit in doing. the us and israeli soldiers who have in cold blood murdered people and animals should be tried and hanged if found guilty. yes if they have murdered innocent animals and were found guilty, they should be hanged until they die. The talmudic banking system should be outlawed and replaced with 0% interest banking. The oil and drug cartel should be disbanded and all alternative and free energy technologies especially tesla technology should be utilized instead of oil. Doing all these should bring at least some sense of justice in the world. Then we can begin to live in the dignity befitting us as loving human beings.

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  11. You have bought the false argument that these commentators are somehow "liberal". They are corporate and Israeli shills pretending to be serious journalists. Bought and paid for, just like everyone connected with Washington DC.

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  12. On spott.
    I used a loong time to gett ridd of all this -isms, my self.
    I had a hard time svallowing the fact that its just Theatrics. All new/fresh ones in politics use years to learn and the to handle the semantics/angles separatly.
    Its just a game, some times the blame game is ruling, but in its essence, and thats the main target, Status Quo, aka: nothing happens.
    Hurray.

    Thats it, to day corporat intresess and corruption is ruling everything, from food to wars. A wast corporat monopoly, where size Do matters and forunes bigger than moust of the countrys have. To rule out that, is to me, confimation of complet and utter clulessness about whats going on, in the world.
    And never have they played so openly, they dont give a shitt anymore, because people are stupifyed to a point, where Animals are fare above us.
    The world have becomed a place of walking deads.
    Not consious anymore to almoust anything.
    No morale.
    No backbone.
    And the wake up, huh.
    We reap what we saw, and in the end, everything has consequencess, even not doing anything have consequencess.
    Never forgett that.

    This time, its up to you and me, and nobody else.

    peace

    PS: #OWS is infact, doing something.
    Salute.

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  13. Then on Hardball last night, host Chuck Todd scoffed that if Ron Paul wins the Iowa caucuses, this will alarm the Washington "elites" to the point that they'll get rid of this long-complained-about nominating system.

    If Mr. Paul wins the Iowa caucuses, which is doubtful, between the large number of pro-Zionist Christian Evangelicals living there who are praying for WWIII so they can be raptured up to Heaven, over the dead bodies of billions of people, and the vote rigging which has become the norm in our political system, if Paul wins, look for the MSM to ignore him even more, or dig up comments from 30 years ago Paul made, mangle them, then accuse him of being anti-Semitic or anti-business or anti-something and not good for America.

    If he keeps winning and gains popularity to the point he looks to become the next Republican presidential candidate, some mysterious illness will hit Paul, killing him or some kind of accident will be visited upon Paul, and he'll be killed, no, that's not the word, he'll be murdered that way.

    Look at who owns the media and look at who owns America and who owns those 'Too Big to Jail' Wall Street casinos that stole trillions of dollars of American wealth and you'll see why that group views Paul such a threat; he puts America first.

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  14. In 1914 the Brits and Germans stopped fighting and joined in soccer and gift exchanges. Why? The Brits heard the Germans singing Silent Night in 1914-WW1. Commonality of spirit. PAX ensued - much to the dislike and anger of the warmongers who forced them back to battle (at gun point). Now Merry Christmas is basically a taboo expression in the US - but our troops and wealth are thrown away in wars against people that do not directly threaten the USA. Merry Christmas with PAX to all. God Bless Ron Paul - and I voted for Obama

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  15. Only a very ignorant observer would label the corporate-owned Zionist msm as "liberal" or "left": they are, by definition, fascist.

    Educate yourself PR. You start by stating, as an example no less: "Iran has good reason to want nukes-- and a couple of those voices were liberal! First neoconservative David Brooks on All Things Considered last night:

    And then, Ron Paul really had a bad debate....."

    So which is it? You give as an example of a "liberal" a neoconservative!!!

    Clue: True liberals believe in personal liberty. That's why George Washington stated it is "my fervent wish we have established a liberal nation"...and you've let fascist talking heads like Rush Limbaugh corrupt the term liberal into a pejorative you parrot.

    Educate yourself: that was exactly what Orwell warned against: changing the definition of words.

    farang

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  16. I second that condemnation of the controlled media. It has operatives in place to guard both the left and right sides of the "govts" BS stories.
    yep, "all things are considered", but only IF those things dont jive with official dogma or are a logical, rational look at whats being covered-up and kept from US.
    Peace, truth, justice, peace and prosperity for US all, in-spite of those who would have it otherwise.

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  17. lol, you know what i meant by that up there.
    Peace, truth, justice, peace and prosperity in-spite of those who would have it otherwise.

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  18. Hey,...here's a friggin' term limit we should try,...

    ..how bout' we only accept, nominate and elect people who are capable of living up to their declared "pre-elective word", and have displayed a degree of integrity, character,... and true, displayed fealty to The Constitution,...?

    ..and, it would seem to me,..that if we demanded brutal adherence to those desired traits in all of our elected officials and leadership,...when
    one of those corrupt fraudsters looking to pad corrupt bank accounts on the people's dime,...

    ..it seems to me we'd have a people's elective body capable of policing itself at that point!!

    Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach,....!

    Regards,

    RJ O'Guillory
    Author-
    Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family

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  19. The neo-con fright wing radio talk show blowhards refer to Ron Paul as an "isolationist", because of his criticism of US foreign policy. That's pretty ironic, considering how Israel and the US are doing a bang up job isolating themselves from the rest of the sane world.

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